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Last updated: 9/26/02

   

   

   

Some Very Successful Classics Students

As a Classics student, you have a lot of career options. You could, e.g., become
rich and famous
maybe not rich, but at least famous
a star on the political stage
an innovative business leader
a fruit detective

No, seriously, there are a lot of practical reasons why you should study Classics.
Click here.

Former Students of Classics that became
• rich and famous:


Joanne Kathleen "Jo" Rowling (1965 - ), best-selling author and multimillionaire

Ever wondered about all the Latin in the popular "Harry Potter" books or in the recent movie (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, 2002)? Between 1983 and 1986, J. K. Rowling studied French with a subsidiary (i.e., minor) in Classics at the University of Exeter in Britain. Her books about the orphaned wizard Harry and the Hogwart's School for Witchcraft and Wizardry have been translated into more than 40 languages (translations into Latin and Greek are planned) and sold more than 30 million copies.

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Robert Edward "Ted" Turner III (1938 - ), media-mogul and billionaire

One of Ted Turner's greatest heroes has always been Alexander the Great, so at Brown University, he decided to major in Classics. His choice of major made his father, who ran a billboard advertising company, "almost puke," as he wrote in a now famous letter to his son (reprinted in Arion 1.1 (1990) 237-39; click on "Autolycus"). Ted Turner subsequently left college and turned his father's billboard business into a huge media-conglomerate. In the process, he launched CNN, the first 24-hour all-news network, founded Turner Network Television (TNT), the Cartoon Network, and Turner Classic Movies (TCM), and acquired sports franchises like the Atlanta Braves. Currently, Mr. Turner heads the Turner Foundation, which is devoted to the protection of the environment, the United Nations Foundation, which in 1999 donated $28 million to help eradicate Polio world-wide, and, together with former Senator Sam Nunn, the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), a charitable organization working to reduce the risk of use and prevent the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

 

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Ted Turner about himself and Alexander the Great:

"They laughed at me when I started CNN. They laughed at me when I bought the Braves. They laughed at me when I bought M-G-M. I spent a lot of time thinking, and I did not fear, because of my classical background. When Alexander the Great took control when his dad died, he was twenty years old. He took the Macedonian Army, which was the best army in the world at the time, and conquered Greece, got the Greeks to all join with him, and then marched across the Hellespont and invaded Asia. They didn't even know where the world ended at that time. And he was dead at thirty-three, thirteen years later. He kept marching. He hardly ever stopped. And he never lost a battle."

(Source: Ken Auletta, "The Lost Tycoon," The New Yorker, April 23&30, 2001, p. 151)

 

 

 

• maybe not rich, but at least famous:








Lian Dolan (1966 - ) public radio talk show host

Lian Dolan is the youngest of the "Satellite Sisters", five now grown-up sisters who decided to create a weekly radio show as a way to reconnect and to talk about issues that they feel are important to women. Their program, first aired in April 2000, is the fasted-growing new program on NPR and can be heard all around the nation (in Salem at 91.5 FM, Saturdays at 11am). Lian Dolan received her B.A. in Classics from Pomona College (1987) and has worked as writer/producer for various sporting goods manufacturers. The head writer for the "Satellite Sisters" program, she also is a freelance writer whose material has appeared in national magazines like O, The Oprah Magazine and Good Housekeeping. She is married, has two young boys, and lives in Portland, OR.
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Toni Morrison (1931 - ), author and winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature (1993)

Toni Morrison graduated in 1953 with a Major in English and a Minor in Classics from Howard University; in 1955, she received an M.F.A. in English from Cornell University. She has published six novels (among them Beloved, for which she won the 1988 Pulitzer Prize in Fiction), a play, and a critical study on the role of race in the reader/writer relationship. She has taught at several colleges and universities and worked for 15 years as senior editor at Random House in New York City.

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Dorothy L. Sayers (1893-1957), British author (Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries) and translator (Dante's Divine Comedy), Christian humanist.

Sayers studied Latin from age six (Greek somewhat later) and maintained a life-long love especially for medieval Latin. Her criticism of the old-fashioned grammar translation method, as well as her suggestions on how to reform the teaching of Latin, should be compulsory reading for everyone who still uses Wheelock's Latin Grammar and similar books.

  "The best grounding for education is the Latin grammar. I say this, not because Latin is traditional and mediaeval, but simply because even a rudimentary knowledge of Latin cuts down the labor and pains of learning almost any other subject by at least fifty percent. It is the key to the vocabulary and structure of all the Teutonic languages, as well as to the technical vocabulary of all the sciences and to the literature of the entire Mediterranean civilization, together with all its historical documents."

(From: Dorothy Sayers, The Lost Tools of Learning, lecture given at Oxford University in 1947)
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Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), philosopher

Nietzsche studied Greek and Latin at a famous college prep-school, Landesschule Pforta, in his native Saxony (Germany). From 1864-1869, he studied Classics in Bonn and Leipzig. In February 1869, before he had even finished his Ph.D., he was appointed Professor of Classics at the University of Basel in Switzerland. His first book, "Birth of Tragedy" (1872), influenced by the philosophy of Schopenhauer, speculates about the origins and the nature of ancient Greek tragedy as a combination of the "Dionysian" and "Apollonian" in the Greek soul. This book, famously ridiculed in a review by his highschool classmate Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorf, later one of the greatest classicists of all time, destroyed Nietzsche's career as a classicist. It started him, however, as an original philosopher whose ideas inspired artists and writers like Rainer Maria Rilke, Robert Musil, Gottfried Benn, Thomas Mann, and Ernst Jünger. In addition, his philosophical ideas have had an impact on disciplines like psychology and anthropology.

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Karl Marx (1818-1883), philosopher, political thinker, journalist, and author of the Manifesto of the Communist Party (1848) and The Capital (1867-83)

Marx took several years of Greek and Latin in high school. Photocopies of essays he wrote in these languages for his exit exams [Abitur] in 1835 are available in the Museum Karl-Marx-Haus in Trier (Germany), where he was born. He studied Law, History, and Philosophy in Bonn and Berlin. In 1841, he received his Ph.D. "in absentia" from the University of Jena for a dissertation on ancient Greek philosophy, entitled The Difference between the Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature. As political editor of the liberal Rheinische Zeitung in Cologne, he fled to Paris and Brussels when this paper was banned in 1843. During the German revolution of 1848/49, Marx returned to Cologne, but when the democratic movement failed, he had to emigrate permanently. He spent the rest of his life in London, where he wrote his main work, The Capital.

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• a star on the political stage:


James A. Baker III, White House Chief of Staff and Treasure Secretary under Pres. Ronald Reagan and Secretary of State under Pres. George H. Bush.

James Baker graduated in 1952 with a B.A. in Classics from Princeton University. He also holds a J.D. with honors from the University of Texas at Austin School of Law (1957). At present, he is a senior partner in the law firm of Baker & Botts and serves on the boards of Rice University, the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, and a number of other non-profit organizations.

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William S. Cohen (1940 - ), former Secretary of Defense

William Cohen majored in Latin at Bowdoin College in Brunswick, Maine and graduated cum laude in 1962. Three years later, he earned his law degree, also cum laude, at Boston University. One of his first jobs was as assistant editor of a magazine produced by the American Trial Lawyers Association in Watertown. With 25, he started his own law practice in his home town, Bangor, Maine. First elected at age 32, he was a Republican member of the House of Representatives between 1973 and 1979. From 1979-1997, he sat in the Senate until he was appointed Secretary of Defense by Pres. Clinton in 1997. He has published two books of poetry, three mystery novels, and four other books (more information).

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As far as my passion for writing, I have had the benefit of a classics education. What was called a liberal arts education which allowed me to have a sense of history and to study the classics, so that I might gain as much wisdom from studying the past that I might be a better person to deal with the future. That is what I have tried to do. To use words to help persuade one in an argument or on an issue is not inconsistent with being Secretary of Defense. It is a great asset to have.

(From a press conference in Marrakech (Morocco), February 11, 2000)


 

Jerry Brown [a.k.a. Edmund G. Brown] (1938 - )
former governor of California

Jerry Brown received his B.A in Classics from the University of California at Berkeley in 1961. He graduated from Yale Law School in 1964. In 1974, at the age of 34, he was elected governor of California. In 1978, he easily won a second term as governor. Since 1994, he hosts his own radio program, "We the People." In 1999, he became mayor of Oakland, CA.

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William F. "Bill" Weld
former governor of Massachusetts

William Weld graduated from Harvard with a B.A. in Classics, summa cum laude. More recently, he tried his luck as a mystery writer (Mackerel by Moonlight, 1998), according to Mother Jones with limited success.

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Carl Schurz (1829-1906)
Revolutionary Hero, Journalist, and German-American Statesman

Carl Schurz studied Latin and Greek in high school in Germany. During his university entrance exams in 1847, he impressed his examiners because he knew the entire 6th book of Homer's Iliad by heart. As a student of history at Bonn University, Carl Schurz fought in the democratic German revolution of 1848. Imprisoned in Fort Rastatt, he escaped through a sewer and later helped his jailed mentor, Prof. Gottfried Kinkel, escape from a Berlin prison. In 1852, he emigrated to the United States where he became a lawyer, newspaper editor, and influential supporter of Abraham Lincoln. A Union general in the Civil war, Schurz became the first German-American U.S. Senator (R, Missouri, 1869-1875) and served as Secretary of the Interior under Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-1881). As interior secretary, Schurz implemented legislation to protect forests, reformed the civil service, and promoted better treatment for African Americans and Native Americans. The small reservation town of Schurz, Nevada honors his name.

  "I did indeed – and unfortunately – forget a lot of the Latin and Greek that I learned as a highschool student. But I never lost the esthetic and moral impulses which these studies gave me, the idealistic values, which they helped me form, the intellectual horizons which they opened up. ... If I could choose again between classical studies and the so-called "useful" disciplines, I would, without a doubt, choose for myself more or less the same kind of curriculum that I went through."
(Carl Schurz, Lebenserinnerungen I, Berlin 1906, p. 91)
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• an innovative business leader:

Dr. Charles M. "Chuck" Geschke, former CEO and Co-founder of Adobe Systems

After receiving an A.B. in Classics and a M.S. in Mathematics from Xavier University, Geschke earned a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Carnegie-Mellon University. From 1963-68, he taught Mathematics at John Carroll University. In 1982, Dr. Geschke co-founded Adobe Systems, Inc. together with John Warnock. He retired as Adobe's President in 2000, but still serves as Chairman of the Board.

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Jim Manzi, former CEO of Lotus Development Corp.

Jim Manzi received a B.A. in Classics from Colgate University. After graduating from the Fletcher School
of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University with a masters in International Economics, he became a management consultant at McKinsey & Company. In 1983, he joined Lotus to lead the start-up company's marketing efforts. In 1984, he became its President, another year later its Chairman and CEO. He led the company during the development of Lotus Notes, a revolutionary software program that enabled the then-new concept of "workgroup" computing. Since 1995, when Lotus was sold to IBM for $3.5 billion, he has been involved in the creation and development of numerous technology start-up ventures with his investment company, Stonegate Capital.

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• a fruit detective:








David Karp, Fruit Detective

David Karp was already fluent in Latin when he graduated from High School. At the age of 20, while majoring in Medieval Studies at Wesleyan University, he published a translation of the 6th-century Latin author Venantius Fortunatus. After graduation, he started a successful career in risk arbitrage and option trading on Wall Street. Recovering from a serious drug addiction, however, he changed course and started his new career as a free-lance fruit writer and photographer for the L.A. Times. He researches exotic fruit and uncommon varieties of common fruit both on California farmers markets and abroad for high-end specialty stores like Dean & DeLuca in New York, and he publishes his discoveries in regular columns in the Los Angeles Times and Gourmet, sometimes also in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Now one of the best known experts in his self-chosen field, he was recently featured in a six-page article in The New Yorker (Aug. 19&26, 2002, pp. 70-79).

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